Hatfield 12 gauge semi auto walmart reviews

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at that price, buy it and tell the class about it.

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I hear the McCoys are better.

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My Wal-Mart now carries the cheapest weapons they can buy.......

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Saw that and thought it'd make a good backup or loaner gun for dove season. I'll get one in 20ga if I see one. My $200 Wal-Mart Charles Daly has been a great cheapo hunting shotgun as well.

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That's because people are cheap fucks....    Why buy a Beretta A400 when this dogshit gun for 1/5 the price will do the same thing.

Cheap guns sell....   Expensive quality guns sit until someone comes looking for them.

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I bought one a couple weeks ago for my GF to use during dove season. I haven't shot it yet, but it seems like a decent shotgun. The bolt design is similar to my old Beretta 303, so at least it seems solid in that respect. I can tell you, though, that this thing is made out of pot metal. I don't know if you're looking for something of good quality, but I suspect after several hundred rounds this thing is really going to start showing some serious wear.

They're imported from Turkey and distributed by UTAS here in the US, and they seem to have decent customer service.

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damnit! I came here to post this

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I bought one a couple weeks ago for my GF to use during dove season. I haven't shot it yet, but it seems like a decent shotgun. The bolt design is similar to my old Beretta 303, so at least it seems solid in that respect. I can tell you, though, that this thing is made out of pot metal. I don't know if you're looking for something of good quality, but I suspect after several hundred rounds this thing is really going to start showing some serious wear.

They're imported from Turkey and distributed by UTAS here in the US, and they seem to have decent customer service.

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How can you tell it's pot metal?  I saw a plastic/textured trigger guard but the receiver looked like standard aluminum and the barrel blued steel.

Thanks

-Emt1581

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Not a ton of info online about these.  ZERO youtube vids on them.  On Google, 95% of people that own them seem to love them.  But there are a few duds that needed repairs.  Seems like they have good customer service.

Most of the talk on them is bashing and comes from people that have no direct experience with them.  Kinda what comes with the territory for anything inexpensive in the gun world.

-Emt1581

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That thing looks funtionally identical to the HR Auto Excell, also made in turkey. I have that one, and for the price it's been great. Simple and clunky, but shucks shells just fine.

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Saw that and thought it'd make a good backup or loaner gun for dove season. I'll get one in 20ga if I see one. My $200 Wal-Mart Charles Daly has been a great cheapo hunting shotgun as well.

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that's odd..

out of the dozens of shotguns I own and have shot, the Charles Daly Youth 20 was the shittiest firearm I ever bought and the only one where I got so disgusted on a duck hunt that I drove immediately to Academy when I got to town and went inside, nasty and swampy and bought him a 870 youth. I'm staring at the piece of shit right now, because in good conscious and being decent person I cannot bring my self to sell or give it away on an unsuspecting soul. ( I had that gun worked over 3 different types by a very competent gunsmith at one of their warranty service units).

how bad does a gun have to be when you realize it would be wrong in the eyes of God to sell it or give it away to an unsuspecting human being?

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I hear the McCoys are better.

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Me too. I was going to say I'd rather go with the McCoy.

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Me too. I was going to say I'd rather go with the McCoy.

Make sure you get a REAL McCoy and not one of those cheap Chinese knock-offs.

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Make sure you get a REAL McCoy and not one of those cheap Chinese knock-offs.

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damnit! I came here to post this

Me too. I was going to say I'd rather go with the McCoy.

Make sure you get a REAL McCoy and not one of those cheap Chinese knock-offs.
 

Shit. Missed it by just a cunt hair.

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Shit. Missed it by just a cunt hair.

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I hear the McCoys are better.

damnit! I came here to post this

Me too. I was going to say I'd rather go with the McCoy.

Make sure you get a REAL McCoy and not one of those cheap Chinese knock-offs.

Shit. Missed it by just a cunt hair.

Red or black?

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I bought one a couple weeks ago for my GF to use during dove season. I haven't shot it yet, but it seems like a decent shotgun. The bolt design is similar to my old Beretta 303, so at least it seems solid in that respect. I can tell you, though, that this thing is made out of pot metal. I don't know if you're looking for something of good quality, but I suspect after several hundred rounds this thing is really going to start showing some serious wear.

They're imported from Turkey and distributed by UTAS here in the US, and they seem to have decent customer service.

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as soon as I saw the price I figured it was turkish

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Make sure you get a REAL Clyde McCoy and not one of those cheap Chinese V847 knock-offs.

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I hear the McCoys are better.

damnit! I came here to post this

Me too. I was going to say I'd rather go with the McCoy.

Make sure you get a REAL Clyde McCoy and not one of those cheap Chinese V847 knock-offs.
 

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Looks like a Turk gun.

If it does what you want go for it, but I'd be worried about getting parts from a company that doesn't have their website show up on the first page of google search results.

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Looks like a Turk gun.

If it does what you want go for it, but I'd be worried about getting parts from a company that doesn't have their website show up on the first page of google search results.

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That is pretty odd.  Can't find a website for Hatfield.  And it seems like the only people buying them are doing so at Wal-Mart.  I'm wondering if Walmart did with "Hatfield" what Cabela's did with "Herters".  In other words buy the name and have the company make a shit ton of them to sell cheaply.

But again, I can't find many people that own them who are complaining about them.

Just wish there was even one youtube vid on them.

-Emt1581

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Looks like a Yildiz gun.

I'm actually almost 100% sure its a Yildiz.

Good guns for the price.

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I picked one of these up about a month ago. It is marked SAS on the receiver and imported from Turkey by UTAS I believe. Fit an finish is decent but nowhere near my Franchi(which I didnt expect it to be). It balances ok and actually points pretty nicely. I ran everything from #7.5 birdshot to 3" 00 buckshot and it performed flawlessly. It comes with 3 chokes and an additional forend lug for heavy loads. I'd say I have a total of about 150 rounds through it so far. Time will tell with this one

I got this basically as a beater gun. Clay pigeon shooting and the occasional dove hunting. I think it will hold up just fine for that purpose

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From what I've found just poking around, most of the Turkish guns are very similar in design, just tweaked a little from brand to brand. I assume most are made in the same factory and just badged for whatever importer made the order.

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I picked one of these up about a month ago. It is marked SAS on the receiver and imported from Turkey by UTAS I believe. Fit an finish is decent but nowhere near my Franchi(which I didnt expect it to be). It balances ok and actually points pretty nicely. I ran everything from #7.5 birdshot to 3" 00 buckshot and it performed flawlessly. It comes with 3 chokes and an additional forend lug for heavy loads. I'd say I have a total of about 150 rounds through it so far. Time will tell with this one

I got this basically as a beater gun. Clay pigeon shooting and the occasional dove hunting. I think it will hold up just fine for that purpose

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Sounds like a great value for the price.

Thanks for sharing.

-Emt1581

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Went to the website.  It's "under construction".  But its got the life story of Ted Hatfield and his dream of making guns.  Nothing about the guns or anything other than a customer service link.

-Emt1581

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Went to Wal-Mart to buy one.  After 30min. of them calling every empoyee and assistant manager over...no one in the ENTIRE STORE..was certified to sell guns!!

So now I have to go back either tonight or tomorrow.

I'm thinking of also making a review/vid on them because there's next to no information about them online.

-Emt1581

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Or you could have bought a IAC/hawk for even less and known it was going to be a decent gun instead of gambling money.

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They make an IAC Hawk in Semi-Auto for less??  Wow, link please?

If I wanted another pump it would be a Maverick.  $188 at Walmart.  Already have a bunch though and a Mariner.

-Emt1581

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They make an IAC Hawk in Semi-Auto for less??  Wow, link please?

If I wanted another pump it would be a Maverick.  $188 at Walmart.  Already have a bunch though and a Mariner.

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Or you could have bought a IAC/hawk for even less and known it was going to be a decent gun instead of gambling money.

They make an IAC Hawk in Semi-Auto for less??  Wow, link please?

If I wanted another pump it would be a Maverick.  $188 at Walmart.  Already have a bunch though and a Mariner.

-Emt1581

$179 for the ghost ring sight model
Classic Arms

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that's odd..

out of the dozens of shotguns I own and have shot, the Charles Daly Youth 20 was the shittiest firearm I ever bought and the only one where I got so disgusted on a duck hunt that I drove immediately to Academy when I got to town and went inside, nasty and swampy and bought him a 870 youth. I'm staring at the piece of shit right now, because in good conscious and being decent person I cannot bring my self to sell or give it away on an unsuspecting soul. ( I had that gun worked over 3 different types by a very competent gunsmith at one of their warranty service units).

how bad does a gun have to be when you realize it would be wrong in the eyes of God to sell it or give it away to an unsuspecting human being?

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Sounds like a good gun to give to one of those feel-good buy backs the liberals run in the cities.

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that's odd..

out of the dozens of shotguns I own and have shot, the Charles Daly Youth 20 was the shittiest firearm I ever bought and the only one where I got so disgusted on a duck hunt that I drove immediately to Academy when I got to town and went inside, nasty and swampy and bought him a 870 youth. I'm staring at the piece of shit right now, because in good conscious and being decent person I cannot bring my self to sell or give it away on an unsuspecting soul. ( I had that gun worked over 3 different types by a very competent gunsmith at one of their warranty service units).

how bad does a gun have to be when you realize it would be wrong in the eyes of God to sell it or give it away to an unsuspecting human being?

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Saw that and thought it'd make a good backup or loaner gun for dove season. I'll get one in 20ga if I see one. My $200 Wal-Mart Charles Daly has been a great cheapo hunting shotgun as well.

that's odd..

out of the dozens of shotguns I own and have shot, the Charles Daly Youth 20 was the shittiest firearm I ever bought and the only one where I got so disgusted on a duck hunt that I drove immediately to Academy when I got to town and went inside, nasty and swampy and bought him a 870 youth. I'm staring at the piece of shit right now, because in good conscious and being decent person I cannot bring my self to sell or give it away on an unsuspecting soul. ( I had that gun worked over 3 different types by a very competent gunsmith at one of their warranty service units).

how bad does a gun have to be when you realize it would be wrong in the eyes of God to sell it or give it away to an unsuspecting human being?

Hmm. Maybe I got lucky, or you did not lol. I've had mine for going on 12 years. 3" Field model. I've shot the shit out of it. Used it for a beater duck gun when I still lived in Ohio. It was the grim reaper for rabbit, woodcock and pheasant. Took it through high round count days of dove hunting and a metric fuckton of clays. Besides 22s, it's probably #1 for highest round count of every gun I own.

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Or you could have bought a IAC/hawk for even less and known it was going to be a decent gun instead of gambling money.

They make an IAC Hawk in Semi-Auto for less??  Wow, link please?

If I wanted another pump it would be a Maverick.  $188 at Walmart.  Already have a bunch though and a Mariner.

-Emt1581

$179 for the ghost ring sight model
Classic Arms

That's an interesting looking semi-auto.  Looks more like a standard pump to me.

-Emt1581

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Bought one.

I won't get into the royal mother of all clusterfucks that is Wal-Mart!!!

Seems pretty decent.  Nothing about it says flimsy or crude.

A couple of observations though.  No sling mounts.  I don't have many wood stocked guns and have never screwed in swivels so hopefully that's not a big deal.  Also no way of taking the stock off that I can see.  There are two holes punched through the rubber butt pad that I'm assuming are screw holes.  I could try shoving a screwdriver in there fishing around for some screws.  But other than that, no screws or bolt visible anywhere on the stock to take it off.

Not a huge fan of the front site.  It's okay and does the job but I'd prefer a brass bead.

Other than that, this thing seems like a massive deal for what I got.  I'll report back after I put some rounds through it.

Feel free to ask any questions.

-Emt1581

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That's an interesting looking semi-auto.  Looks more like a standard pump to me.

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Or you could have bought a IAC/hawk for even less and known it was going to be a decent gun instead of gambling money.

They make an IAC Hawk in Semi-Auto for less??  Wow, link please?

If I wanted another pump it would be a Maverick.  $188 at Walmart.  Already have a bunch though and a Mariner.

-Emt1581

$179 for the ghost ring sight model
Classic Arms

That's an interesting looking semi-auto.  Looks more like a standard pump to me.

-Emt1581

Gotcha. My bad

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No problem.  I was just hoping you'd catch my drift about the semi-auto vs. pump.

-Emt1581

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So.....problem!

The mag won't load 4 rounds unless I loosen the forend cap.  Then it leaves the forend slightly loose.  If I tighten it too much after loading 4 rounds in the mag it'll shoot a round out of the mag onto the elevator.

I'm thinking the plastic end cap that holds the spring in is too long and needs to be filed down some.  But I'm going to write the company and see what they say.  I'll keep the thread updated with the progress.

-Emt1581

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Yeah, there are so many knockoffs though. It is hard to tell the real ones from the fakes.

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That is pretty odd.  Can't find a website for Hatfield.  And it seems like the only people buying them are doing so at Wal-Mart.  I'm wondering if Walmart did with "Hatfield" what Cabela's did with "Herters".  In other words buy the name and have the company make a shit ton of them to sell cheaply.

But again, I can't find many people that own them who are complaining about them.

Just wish there was even one youtube vid on them.

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Looks like a Turk gun.

If it does what you want go for it, but I'd be worried about getting parts from a company that doesn't have their website show up on the first page of google search results.

That is pretty odd.  Can't find a website for Hatfield.  And it seems like the only people buying them are doing so at Wal-Mart.  I'm wondering if Walmart did with "Hatfield" what Cabela's did with "Herters".  In other words buy the name and have the company make a shit ton of them to sell cheaply.

But again, I can't find many people that own them who are complaining about them.

Just wish there was even one youtube vid on them.

-Emt1581

or academy with Yildiz, i wonder if they're made by the same folks in turkey.  only place you can get those turkish field guns.  fwiw, their O/U beat the next best gun on price by a few hundo. they're not steel, some kind of lightweight alloy, and don't have a great recoil pad on the stock so the felt recoil is more than you'll have with most others.

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So.....problem!

The mag won't load 4 rounds unless I loosen the forend cap.  Then it leaves the forend slightly loose.  If I tighten it too much after loading 4 rounds in the mag it'll shoot a round out of the mag onto the elevator.

I'm thinking the plastic end cap that holds the spring in is too long and needs to be filed down some.  But I'm going to write the company and see what they say.  I'll keep the thread updated with the progress.

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It doesn't have the field plug in does it?

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So.....problem!

The mag won't load 4 rounds unless I loosen the forend cap.  Then it leaves the forend slightly loose.  If I tighten it too much after loading 4 rounds in the mag it'll shoot a round out of the mag onto the elevator.

I'm thinking the plastic end cap that holds the spring in is too long and needs to be filed down some.  But I'm going to write the company and see what they say.  I'll keep the thread updated with the progress.

-Emt1581

It doesn't have the field plug in does it?

Nope took that out.

-Emt1581

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that's odd..

out of the dozens of shotguns I own and have shot, the Charles Daly Youth 20 was the shittiest firearm I ever bought and the only one where I got so disgusted on a duck hunt that I drove immediately to Academy when I got to town and went inside, nasty and swampy and bought him a 870 youth. I'm staring at the piece of shit right now, because in good conscious and being decent person I cannot bring my self to sell or give it away on an unsuspecting soul. ( I had that gun worked over 3 different types by a very competent gunsmith at one of their warranty service units).

how bad does a gun have to be when you realize it would be wrong in the eyes of God to sell it or give it away to an unsuspecting human being?

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Saw that and thought it'd make a good backup or loaner gun for dove season. I'll get one in 20ga if I see one. My $200 Wal-Mart Charles Daly has been a great cheapo hunting shotgun as well.

that's odd..

out of the dozens of shotguns I own and have shot, the Charles Daly Youth 20 was the shittiest firearm I ever bought and the only one where I got so disgusted on a duck hunt that I drove immediately to Academy when I got to town and went inside, nasty and swampy and bought him a 870 youth. I'm staring at the piece of shit right now, because in good conscious and being decent person I cannot bring my self to sell or give it away on an unsuspecting soul. ( I had that gun worked over 3 different types by a very competent gunsmith at one of their warranty service units).

how bad does a gun have to be when you realize it would be wrong in the eyes of God to sell it or give it away to an unsuspecting human being?

Well next time your town has a gun buy back get yourself a gift card, you know it will be scrapped that way.

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Bought one.

I won't get into the royal mother of all clusterfucks that is Wal-Mart!!!

Seems pretty decent.  Nothing about it says flimsy or crude.

A couple of observations though.  No sling mounts.  I don't have many wood stocked guns and have never screwed in swivels so hopefully that's not a big deal.  Also no way of taking the stock off that I can see.  There are two holes punched through the rubber butt pad that I'm assuming are screw holes.  I could try shoving a screwdriver in there fishing around for some screws.  But other than that, no screws or bolt visible anywhere on the stock to take it off.  

Not a huge fan of the front site.  It's okay and does the job but I'd prefer a brass bead.

Other than that, this thing seems like a massive deal for what I got.  I'll report back after I put some rounds through it.

Feel free to ask any questions.

-Emt1581

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There are screws inside those holes, usually Phillips heads. Once you get the recoil pad off if you look down inside the stock there should be a bolt or large screw that holds the stock on the receiver extension. Screwing sling studs in the stock isn't that big of a deal, they make a jig so you get the hole drilled in the center of the stock but since this is a beater gun you could just do it free hand and if you're steady you should be able to get it close. For the front you can either get a barrel band or drill a hole in the end of the mag cap and put the stud in there.

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I picked one of these up about a month ago. It is marked SAS on the receiver and imported from Turkey by UTAS I believe. Fit an finish is decent but nowhere near my Franchi(which I didnt expect it to be). It balances ok and actually points pretty nicely. I ran everything from #7.5 birdshot to 3" 00 buckshot and it performed flawlessly. It comes with 3 chokes and an additional forend lug for heavy loads. I'd say I have a total of about 150 rounds through it so far. Time will tell with this one

I got this basically as a beater gun. Clay pigeon shooting and the occasional dove hunting. I think it will hold up just fine for that purpose

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"Franchi" as a brand for setting a quality standard has been worthless for three decades.  An old Franchi shotgun is one thing, but the variety of guns imported and then sold as "Franchi" is a completely unreliable indicator, although as time passes it converges on "junk".

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So.....problem!

The mag won't load 4 rounds unless I loosen the forend cap.  Then it leaves the forend slightly loose.  If I tighten it too much after loading 4 rounds in the mag it'll shoot a round out of the mag onto the elevator.

I'm thinking the plastic end cap that holds the spring in is too long and needs to be filed down some.  But I'm going to write the company and see what they say.  I'll keep the thread updated with the progress.

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What makes you believe the magazine holds four rounds?  What length ammunition are you loading?

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So.....problem!

The mag won't load 4 rounds unless I loosen the forend cap.  Then it leaves the forend slightly loose.  If I tighten it too much after loading 4 rounds in the mag it'll shoot a round out of the mag onto the elevator.

I'm thinking the plastic end cap that holds the spring in is too long and needs to be filed down some.  But I'm going to write the company and see what they say.  I'll keep the thread updated with the progress.

-Emt1581

What makes you believe the magazine holds four rounds?  What length ammunition are you loading?

I've got one, it holds 4 rounds with the plug out.

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I've got one, it holds 4 rounds with the plug out.

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So.....problem!

The mag won't load 4 rounds unless I loosen the forend cap.  Then it leaves the forend slightly loose.  If I tighten it too much after loading 4 rounds in the mag it'll shoot a round out of the mag onto the elevator.

I'm thinking the plastic end cap that holds the spring in is too long and needs to be filed down some.  But I'm going to write the company and see what they say.  I'll keep the thread updated with the progress.

-Emt1581

What makes you believe the magazine holds four rounds?  What length ammunition are you loading?

I've got one, it holds 4 rounds with the plug out.

Which case length?

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I looked at one-Turkish made, looks like the Khan shotguns that were available a few years ago with a new name on it. Friend of mine has a 3 1/2" Khan, uses it and likes it. For $225 shoot the fucker for one trip and sell it a week later if you don't like it.

ETA-they also offer a single shot for $99. Based on the location of the hinge it looks like it's fully foldable.

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2 3/4" which clearly says something wrong because this gun can handle 3" as well.

In all my Mossy's when the tube is full, there's plenty of room left over which is basically to account for 3" shells.  And even when loaded with 3" shells, there is still about 1/4" of give.

Personally, I think it has to do with the little plastic cap on the end of the mag tube holding the spring/follower in.  I think the petals on that piece might be binding up the spring and not letting it compress correctly.

-Emt1581