Venom in spider man no way home

Q: What was the point of venom in No Way Home?

So, whats the deal? According to No Way Home co-writer Chris McKenna, it all comes down to what Venom says about his species hive knowledge across universes that could fry Eddies tiny human brain. The idea is that the Symbiote has knowledge of other universes, McKenna explained to Variety.

Q: Why did venom disappear at the end of No Way Home?

Its a result of the spell Doctor Strange (Benedict Cumberbatch) casts at the end of No Way Home, but a spot of Venoms symbiote is left behind on the bar after Eddie has left. The scene means No Way Home does technically feature the Sinister Six.

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"And you thought 'Lethal Protector' was a sh** name!" One of the lingering questions left by Spider-Man: No Way Home is why Eddie Brock and Venom (both of them played by Tom Hardy) were transported into the Marvel Cinematic Universe during the mid-credits scene of Venom: Let There There Be Carnage if they live in a world without Spider-Man.

As we learn, Doctor Strange's botched spell only brought in characters who knew that Peter Parker and Spider-Man were the same person. So, what's the deal? According to No Way Home co-writer Chris McKenna, it all comes down to what Venom says about his species' "hive knowledge across universes" that could fry Eddie's tiny human brain. “The idea is that the Symbiote has knowledge of other universes," McKenna explained to Variety. "Buried in his brain is some knowledge of that connection."

While Carnage seemed to carry the promise of a Hardy-Holland showdown in No Way Home, that didn't end up being the case, though it was "definitely discussed," McKenna and his co-writer Erik Sommers confirmed.

In another mid-credits sequence (which was apparently directed by Jon Watts), we see that Eddie and his alien parasite have been at a Mexican resort this entire time, knocking back alcoholic beverages on the beach as they try to wrap their head around a world fully populated with super-powered individuals. Just as Mr. Brock makes the decision to go to New York and speak with Spider-Man, he's transported back to his home dimension, leaving a bit of Symbiote goop behind. The message couldn't have been clearer: Hardy's version will continue to remain separate while the MCU gets its own iteration of Venom.

Sadly, the MCU's Peter Parker never got to face off with San Francisco's man-eating Lethal Protector, who was reportedly just one of several multiversal characters who didn't end up making the cut. “We went down different roads with different characters that just didn’t fit,” McKenna added. “We can’t get into the details of that because it might be the kind of thing where they’ll find a way to explore those ideas. So I’d hate to spoil anything, because I think we had a lot of fun.”

The idea of not wanting the story to get mired in callback-after-callback was very important to the screenwriting duo. They weren't trying to make Spider-Man Fan Service: The Movie, which required a lot of restraint in reigning in the fanboy desire to bring back every single Spidey villain and ally ever put to the silver screen.

“The most important thing is this wasn’t just going to be a bunch of fan service. It wasn’t going to be just curtain calls for everybody,” McKenna finished. “We had to figure out a way that this [movie] told the story of this Peter Parker right now, organically coming off of where we left the last movie. That was always our north star. Yeah, it’s a big fun idea. Let’s not forget Peter. You can’t get lost in the mix. It has to be his emotional journey.”

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Jon Watts’ box-office blockbuster was a crowded affair. Classic villains from the previous Spider-Man franchises including Green Goblin (Willem Dafoe) and Doctor Octopus (Alfred Molina) shared the screen with original Spider-Man actors Tobey Maguire and Andrew Garfield. This movie also, however, had to make room for the series’ big three of Tom Holland, Zendaya, and Jacob Batalon, and the screenplay also featured Doctor Strange (Benedict Cumberbatch) casting a controversial spell and Charlie Cox’s Daredevil stepping over from Netflix to the MCU. There was a lot going on, so it’s a little concerning (and ultimately a relief) that the screenwriters also considered adding Venom into the meat of the movie as yet another antagonist for the three Spideys.

Tom Hardy’s Venom did show up in the end-credits scenes of Spider-Man: No Way Home. He was at a bar, confused, and was considering heading to New York when he suddenly got beamed back to his original universe… leaving a piece of his symbiote beyond. That will get addressed in the future, but Spider-Man: No Way Home co-writers recently told Empire Magazine (via ComicBook) about deleted Venom scenes, and even what they would have entailed. Co-writer Chris McKenna said:

So Eddie Brock makes it to the MCU but he never makes it out of a bar. But there were versions where he shows up earlier. We were going to try to have him show up at the Statue of Liberty [for the final fight], and we were even toying with having him stuck in the Lincoln Tunnel.

The coolest element of having Venom show up at the Statue of Liberty is that Tobey Maguire’s Spider-Man might have recognized the symbiote, even though Eddie Brock’s interpretation of Venom looks absolutely nothing like the character Topher Grace played in Spider-Man 3. There’s also the fact that Hardy’s Venom did seem to recognize Tom Holland’s Spidey in the end credits scenes of Venom: Let There Be Carnage. Still, including Venom and trying to give him a reason for wanting to fight these Spider-Men would have required too much explaining, so I’m happy they left Eddie Brock out of the main event.

Where Venom turns up next is anyone’s guess. Sony Pictures, which earns the rights to the character, is busy expanding out that universe with movies centered around other Spider-Man villains. Jared Leto’s Morbius was shredded by critics, but the supernatural vampire thriller still opened at the top of the box office charts. This means Morbius could show up in future movies, which will feature Kraven the Hunter (Aaron Taylor Johnson), Madame Web (Dakota Johnson), and whomever Sydney Sweeney is playing in the growing Spider-Man universe.

There are two dates circled on the release calendar for Sony that have been reserved for untitled Sony/Marvel movies, and one of them could (and should) be a third Venom movie. But until we know for certain, we’ll just keep speculating, and looking forward to all of the upcoming Marvel movies that are on the calendar.

Sean O’Connell is a journalist and CinemaBlend’s Managing Editor. He's frequently found on Twitter at @Sean_OConnell. ReelBlend cohost. A movie junkie who's Infatuated with comic-book films. Helped get the Snyder Cut released, then wrote a book about it.

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What was the point of venom in No Way Home?

So, what's the deal? According to No Way Home co-writer Chris McKenna, it all comes down to what Venom says about his species' "hive knowledge across universes" that could fry Eddie's tiny human brain. “The idea is that the Symbiote has knowledge of other universes," McKenna explained to Variety.

Why did venom disappear at the end of No Way Home?

It's a result of the spell Doctor Strange (Benedict Cumberbatch) casts at the end of No Way Home, but a spot of Venom's symbiote is left behind on the bar after Eddie has left. The scene means No Way Home does technically feature the Sinister Six.