Can you conceal carry in a movie theater in washington state

Can you conceal carry in a movie theater in washington state

Are guns allowed in movie theaters? State statutes, local ordinances, and a private business' policies all aim to answer that question. But as the Colorado movie theater shooting shows, enforcement isn't always possible.

Like many other states, Colorado requires a permit for an adult to carry a concealed handgun. But the permit is not valid everywhere.

Some places are off-limits to concealed handguns, pursuant to federal law. In Colorado, site of the Columbine massacre in 1999, public schools are also generally off-limits to concealed-carry permit holders.

So what about movie theaters?

Colorado's concealed handgun statute allows private property owners and business entities to set their own policies regarding guns.

Local ordinances, like those in Aurora where the Colorado shooting took place, can also affect whether guns are allowed in movie theaters.

Aurora's ordinance prohibits anyone from carrying a firearm onto private property if there is "posted notification that the carrying of firearms is prohibited." Verbal notice of a no-guns policy is also sufficient.

As of this writing, news reports had not indicated whether guns were allowed at the theater where Friday's shooting happened. But chatter on various Internet websites suggest Century Theatres, which is owned by Texas-based Cinemark, enforces a strict no-handguns policy.

Some commentators claim Cinemark employees have ejected them for carrying guns into movie theater lobbies, after which they've been offered a refund. Others say they've quietly walked into other theaters while armed, and no one was the wiser.

Those anecdotal examples show that laws and policies about whether guns are allowed in movie theaters can't be enforced at all times. Gun ownership and concealed handguns are polarizing topics in America, and a tragedy like this can make the debate that much more heated.

Related Resources:

  • Analysis: Colorado shooting unlikely to spur changes in gun laws (Reuters)
  • State Gun Control Laws (FindLaw)
  • New to Gun Ownership? Know the Law (FindLaw's Law and Daily Life)
  • Colorado Shooting: Civil Lawsuits Likely (FindLaw's Injured)

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After todays movie theater incident in TN, I'll start with this. I frequent a movie theater that has had problems in past years with gang-related activity. this has prompted the management to post decals on the entrance that say " no weapons " and have the strikeout over a pistol and knife. they have even gone the length to hire a security guard who apparently thinks he is going into combat, brandishing a bulletproof vest, with pistol and triple mag holder on his belt and wearing police swat type apparel. My question is this: what are the repercussions of concealed carrying a pistol in this business? I hold a Washington State CPL, as well as an Arizona CWP (not that it matters, since AZ CWP does not hold reciprocity in WA). I am not worried about anyone seeing the pistol as it is IWB and I would even be more wary of people seeing it here in WA, as they are more skittish of firearms here for some reason (less common) - but what if someone did? what would happen? I cannot find a clear - cut answer. And heaven forbid in the event I have to use it, what would happen?

if anyone can find the RCW I would appreciate it.

Am I required to inform law enforcement? I have been told numerous times that I do not need to inform unless asked in Washington, but I would like to read the law for myself.

No, you do not have to inform. No, you wont' find a law on this because there isn't one. In general laws are not written to say you "don't have to" do something, it's the opposite. In this case, since it doesn't say you have to, you don't have to.

Try one of Dave Workman's books: Washington Gun Rights and Responsibilities

I am also looking for laws about carrying on private property or national/state parks or forests in or out of my car.

See Dave's book for some of these. Basically:

Private property: carry all you want. If you are asked to leave (for this argument because they noticed your firearm, but this goes for any other reason too -- don't like your shirt, your hairdo, they're just being ornery...) and you do not, you can be charged with trespassing. If you leave promptly and quietly, then no harm, no foul. No Guns signs are meaningless in WA.

National parks: no carry. Gun may be unloaded and locked in a box in the trunk or other inaccessible area of the car.

State forests and parks: go for it! Some areas are no shooting, as in no target practice, etc., but carrying is fine. In fact, for a "legitimate outdoor activity" (like hiking perhaps) you don't even need a concealed permit to carry concealed in WA.

National forests: OK, same as state parks/forests.

National Monuments: not sure, but I don't think so. That being said I drive through one all the time armed, I just don't leave the highway.

Wildlife refuge: There's some gray area here and it's not spelled out clearly one way or the other. The intent of the laws are to keep people from hunting there so if you've got a self defense type weapon and can convince them of that I would not have a problem carrying there. Don't pack a .454 Casull with a scope and keep it concealed

Indian Res: You didn't ask, but worth mentioning since there are plenty in WA. For the most part no, not without permission from the tribal elders/council/chief. Driving through you are OK since the highways are state highways. If you get out of the car to go shopping or whatever, leave it behind.

Do I have to inform my friend if I plan on carrying in his home? What about movie theaters which have "no weapons" signs?

No, don't need to inform. See above about private property. Worst they can do is kick you out and ask you not to come back. You don't want to be in a place like that anyhow, right?

I think a good friend would be polite and mention something they know the other would find offensive. Time to offer him/her a trip to the range with you

Also on an unrelated subject, I am wondering how everyone feels about consuming alcohol while carrying. If you are going out for dinner and carrying, do you abstain from alcohol altogether? Obviously being intoxicated and in control of firearms is unwise, but I'm just wondering what other people's personal standards are.

I generally abstain, but have been known to have a (singular, one) beer. Not everyone can just have one, I can, no problem. Intoxication levels for carrying are the same as for driving. You can drink, but you can't be drunk. You of course know that you can't go into the over-21-only area of an establishment while carrying.

Where is concealed carry not allowed in Washington state?

Concealed pistol license holders are generally prohibited from possessing a firearm in any restricted access areas of a jail, law enforcement facility, or any place used for the confinement of a person, unless the holder obtains from the facility's administrator written permission to possess the firearm while on the ...

Where concealed carry is not allowed?

Federally designated areas where weapons are banned, even with a permit: Federal Courthouses* Federal Buildings* Any Building Owned, Leased or Rented by the Federal Government — This includes buildings in national forests which are property of the federal government.

Can you carry a gun in a bar in Washington state?

With a Washington Concealed Pistol License or a license/permit from a state that Washington honors, you may concealed carry only in areas of the restaurant where persons under the age of 21 are allowed. However, concealed carry is not allowed in bars or the bar areas of restaurants.

Can you conceal carry in a Washington state casino?

No firearms are permitted inside the casino Washington State law prohibits the carrying or possession of any firearm in the portion of an establishment classified by the Liquor and Cannabis Board as off-limits to persons under twenty-one years of age, other than by a law enforcement officer (RCW 9.41. 300 (d)).