Is the Mind Flayer connected to Vecna?

A new villain is in town but that does not mean that the one that came before it is already gone in the picture. In Stranger Things Season 4, Vecna starts menacing with Hawkins by targeting victims and killing each of them through some psychic ability. How is he connected to the Mind Flayer, though?

Warning! This article contains spoilers for Stranger Things Season 4! Read at your own risk!

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Is the Mind Flayer connected to Vecna?
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Eleven (Millie Bobby Brown) psychically appears by Max’s side to protect her, but Vecna overpowers them both. They struggle to fight back, and Vecna takes this opportune moment to gloat in Elevens face.

He tells her that it wasn’t Dr. Brenner (Matthew Modine) who made him into what he is, but that she did. By banishing him to the Upside Down she gave him the opportunity to “transcend my human form” and “become the predator I was always born to be.”

Did Vecna create the Mind Flayer?

Is the Mind Flayer connected to Vecna?
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In so many words, yes, Vecna created the Mind Flayer. As we learn, though, the Mind Flayer is just a tool. When Vecna landed in the Upside Down and stumbled upon the Hive Mind he bent the particles to his will, effectively making himself the master of the Upside Down. In doing so, he shattered everything we thought we knew about the Upside Down lore.

This whole time it was him steering the ship: the Demogorgons, the Mind Flayer possessions, the loss of Eleven’s power. It was all him.

Now that we know how he became Vecna, it’s time to figure out what on Earth (or not) the Upside Down is. In speaking with Collider, Ross Duffer said season five will heavily explore that storyline, delving deep into the origin of the alternate dimension. “What we haven’t really discussed is exactly what the Upside Down is. The big reveals that are coming in season five are really about the Upside Down itself, which we only start to hint at.”

We may soon figure out why the Upside Down is frozen in time, why it looks like Hawkins in the first place when it once looked like a barren wasteland, and what, if anything, that has to do with Eleven.

Was Mind Flayer created by Vecna?

The Stranger Things season 4 finale revealed that it was Vecna who moulded the Mind Flayer, and its spider-like shape is deeper than you think. In Stranger Things, Vecna fashioned the Mind Flayer from shapeless dust into something spider-like - why?

Is the Mind Flayer a separate entity from Vecna?

The Mind Flayer is Vecna. Vecna (Jamie Campbell Bower) has a connection to the very beginning of 'Stranger Things. ' After his first battle with Eleven, One found himself in the Upside Down.

How does Vecna tie into Mind Flayer?

By taking control of the Mind Flayer, Vecna turned all of the inhabitants of the Upside Down into a hive mind. It's why all of the demobats, demodogs, and demogorgons act in sync, and why they can be destroyed if the host is incapacitated.

Is Vecna an extension of the Mind Flayer?

*WARNING: Spoilers ahead for Stranger Things season 4* It's also revealed Vecna had a part to play in creating the vile Mind Flayer, the fearsome creature that threatened Hawkins in Stranger Things season 3.