Intel Core i7 10th gen 10700F good for gaming

I would say the i7 9700k but by a negligible amount. I would just buy a i5 10th gen K series. you would probably get better value and performance.  

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First of all there's more to a cpu than clocks and thread and core count, there's the fpu. ipc, cache layout, etc.

second of all, if you're just gaming, a 10600k is more than enough and performs similarly to the 10700k in games as they do not scale up to 8 cores, and do not even bother with LGA1151 and the 9700k, it's a more or less dead platform that wont get updated.

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22 minutes ago, Chris Redfield said:

10700f [...] comes with cooler

if intels stock coolers are anything like they used to be, you may not wanna use that lol. you dont need a liquid cooler for a 9700k anyways, a good air cooler is sufficient. that being said, neither is a good option unless you already have a z390, as the 10600k is better value and performance than either.

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9700k overclocked for solely gaming, but the 10700 will be more versatile. 

Otherwise a 10700 with power limits removed will game just as well if not better than a stock 9700k, and do everything else better.

Stock for stock 9700k all-core is 4.6ghz and 10700 with limits removed also does around 4.6ghz in most user loads

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-10700/20.html

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Not counting PCIE4, the $305 i7-10700 non K is a pretty good value proposition compared to the 3700x, especially since the 3700x has gone up in price to around $290 now.

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1 hour ago, eeeee1 said:

I would say the i7 9700k but by a negligible amount. I would just buy a i5 10th gen K series. you would probably get better value and performance.  

I don't have option to buy i5 10th gen series.

i7 9700k doesn't have 16 threads,and that's the biggest problem with it,because I want something that will be future proof.

However it has better frequency.

44 minutes ago, VeganJoy said:

if intels stock coolers are anything like they used to be, you may not wanna use that lol. you dont need a liquid cooler for a 9700k anyways, a good air cooler is sufficient. that being said, neither is a good option unless you already have a z390, as the 10600k is better value and performance than either.

I have LC-CC 120,but I heard from few people that it's not good for any of those CPUs even on stock.

Like I said above,I don't have option to buy i5 10600k.

40 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

9700k overclocked for solely gaming, but the 10700 will be more versatile. 

 

Otherwise a 10700 with power limits removed will game just as well if not better than a stock 9700k, and do everything else better.

 

Stock for stock 9700k all-core is 4.6ghz and 10700 with limits removed also does around 4.6ghz in most user loads

 

https://www.techpowerup.com/review/intel-core-i7-10700/20.html

 

 

I'm not sure what do you mean for ''power limits removed''?

I need CPU that will perform best in gaming,all rest is secondary,however I want to have something that will last for at least 4-5 years and not to bottleneck RTX 2080 Ti once I get it in distant future.

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PS I plan to play games mostly in 1440p and maybe 4K if possible.

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Posted September 5, 2020

The only change in that graph is the 14nm clock frequency.

Look, old 8700K at 94% 9700K at 95% and 10700K another 1% or so. (stock clocks)

You buy into the highest frequency processor you can afford.

In this case, 10700K about 3% faster than an 8700K according to the charts above lol.

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19 minutes ago, Chris Redfield said:

I don't have option to buy i5 10th gen series.

i7 9700k doesn't have 16 threads,and that's the biggest problem with it,because I want something that will be future proof.

However it has better frequency.

 

I have LC-CC 120,but I heard from few people that it's not good for any of those CPUs even on stock.

Like I said above,I don't have option to buy i5 10600k.

 

non-k chips will try to stick to the 65w tpd limit, and will power limit throttle down.

If your cooling is sufficient, you can go into bios and change the max long duration turbo to higher and also current limit to unlimited, and it will fix this at the cost of heat.

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15 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

The only change in that graph is the 14nm clock frequency.

Look, old 8700K at 94% 9700K at 95% and 10700K another 1% or so. (stock clocks)

 

You buy into the highest frequency processor you can afford.

In this case, 10700K about 3% faster than an 8700K according to the charts above lol.

i wouldn't personally get the 9700k because it doesn't have hyperthreading. For games, they may not care, but once you start throwing other programs in the loop the technology is useful.

i'd probably get a 3700x because its not much slower and has pcie4.

but, the 10700 is better than the 9700k, if i had to choose.

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

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1 minute ago, Mister Woof said:

i wouldn't personally get the 9700k because it doesn't have hyperthreading. For games, they may not care, but once you start throwing other programs in the loop the technology is useful.

 

i'd probably get a 3700x because its not much slower and has pcie4.

 

but, the 10700 is better than the 9700k, if i had to choose.

Yeah, 8 cores is good for today, no good for multi-tasking. I agree. 10700K for sure.

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16 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Yeah, 8 cores is good for today, no good for multi-tasking. I agree. 10700K for sure.

I mean obviously you can get by just fine without HT, but the price difference is small enough to make it a worthwhile decision point

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TV Gamer 2 - Resurrected: i7-8700 // Cryorig H7 Quad Lumi // ASRock Z370 Extreme 4 // 16GB (2x8) Team Group T Force Vulcan 3200 CL16 // Power Color Fighter Radeon RX 6600 // NZXT S340 White // Deep Cool RF120x3 // EVGA 550 GA // 1TB SAMSUNG 860 EVO // Display: 55" LG 4K TV // Wireless keyboard/touchpad // Xbox One Controllers

Son's System: i9-10900KF 5.1-5.3ghz // Deep Cool AK620 // Gigabyte Z590 Aorus Elite AX // 32GB (4x8) Crucial Ballistix 4000 CL18 // EVGA XC RTX 3060 // Corsair 275R Airflow // EVGA Supernova G5 650W Gold // 525GB Crucial MX300/1TB WD SN550 // Display: ACER Nitro VG240Y PBiip / Dell P2417H // Corsair K68 Mechanical Keyboard // Logitech G203

Daughter's System: i5-11400F // ID COOLING SE-224-XT Black // MSI B560M-A PRO // 16GB (2x8) ADATA XPG DDR4 3200  // Zotac GTX 1060 3GB // Corsair 200T iCUE // Corsair CX550 // 480GB PNY CS1311 SSD/2TB Seagate HDD // Display: ASUS VG245H // Corsair K60 Pro SE // Logitech G203

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1 hour ago, ShrimpBrime said:

Yeah, 8 cores is good for today, no good for multi-tasking. I agree. 10700K for sure.

I can't buy 10700K,only 10700F version.

47 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

I mean obviously you can get by just fine without HT, but the price difference is small enough to make it a worthwhile decision point

To be honest,I can buy either i7 10700F or i7 9700K for exactly the same price,zero difference in price.

Main problem with i7 10700F is lack of OC and ''low'' frequency of cores.

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6 minutes ago, Chris Redfield said:

I can't buy 10700K,only 10700F version.

To be honest,I can buy either i7 10700F or i7 9700K for exactly the same price,zero difference in price.

Main problem with i7 10700F is lack of OC and ''low'' frequency of cores.

Read the article I posted about unofficial OC on the 10700 nonk.

Even if you leave bclk alone, power limit tuning will yield good results.

If it were me, I'd get the 10700 nonk over the 9700k.

It's basically the question do you want hyperhtrading or potentially a few hundred more mhz

One is often about a 25% improvement the other is maybe 10% improvement all the time.

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

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22 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

Read the article I posted about unofficial OC on the 10700 nonk.

 

Even if you leave bclk alone, power limit tuning will yield good results.

 

If it were me, I'd get the 10700 nonk over the 9700k.

I have GTX 1080 Ti and if I go with 10700 will I experience any bottleneck?

I don't plan to replace new CPU after 10700 for at least 4-5 years,and in the mean time I plan to buy RTX 2080 Ti.

Will 10700 bottleneck either of those two GPUs at 1440p or 4K?

I read article you posted and it said I should have a lot of RAM.

Would 2x8 be enough?

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3 minutes ago, Chris Redfield said:

I have GTX 1080 Ti and if I go with 10700 will I experience any bottleneck?

I don't plan to replace new CPU after 10700 for at least 4-5 years,and in the mean time I plan to buy RTX 2080 Ti.

Will 10700 bottleneck either of those two GPUs at 1440p or 4K?

I read article you posted and it said I should have a lot of RAM.

Would 2x8 be enough?

 

You aren't gonna bottleneck on the 10700 at even 1080p in most cases, and other chips aren't going to perform much better if they even do at all is not noticable outside of benchmarks imo

Before you reply to my post, REFRESH. 99.99% chance I edited my post. 

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35 minutes ago, Mister Woof said:

You aren't gonna bottleneck on the 10700 at even 1080p in most cases, and other chips aren't going to perform much better if they even do at all is not noticable outside of benchmarks imo

I don't plan to play in 1080p anyway.

Are you 100% sure I won't get GPU bottlenecked with 10700 and GTX 1080Ti because I don't plan to buy RTX 2080Ti in few years.

I see that 9700K have boost up to 4,90ghz.

10700 have boost up to 4,80ghz

I mean,if it's only 0.10ghz difference between those two CPU when boosted.

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22 minutes ago, Chris Redfield said:

I don't plan to play in 1080p anyway.

Are you 100% sure I won't get GPU bottlenecked with 10700 and GTX 1080Ti because I don't plan to buy RTX 2080Ti in few years.

I see that 9700K have boost up to 4,90ghz.

10700 have boost up to 4,80ghz

I mean,if it's only 0.10ghz difference between those two CPU when boosted.

 

 

No, not 100%

Buy read the data and decide

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Posted September 5, 2020

30 minutes ago, Chris Redfield said:

I don't plan to play in 1080p anyway.

Are you 100% sure I won't get GPU bottlenecked with 10700 and GTX 1080Ti because I don't plan to buy RTX 2080Ti in few years.

I see that 9700K have boost up to 4,90ghz.

10700 have boost up to 4,80ghz

I mean,if it's only 0.10ghz difference between those two CPU when boosted.

 

 

No you won't have any bottle neck. It'll game just fine.

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12 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

No you won't have any bottle neck. It'll game just fine.

I really hope it will be OK.

I just read that max boost clocks apply to only one thread when other usage is light and when thermal limits permit.

You said in previous post that ''You buy into the highest frequency processor you can afford. ''

That CPU would be 9700K + overclock.

However lack of threads and lower cache is what worries me the most.HT is nice to have,but I don't need it that much.

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Just now, Chris Redfield said:

I really hope it will be OK.

I just read that max boost clocks apply to only one thread when other usage is light and when thermal limits permit.

You said in previous post that ''You buy into the highest frequency processor you can afford. ''

That CPU would be 9700K + overclock.

However lack of threads and lower cache is what worries me the most.HT is nice to have,but I don't need it that much.

9700K is 8 threads and high frequency. I'm not aware of too many games that scale past 8 threads. So that's a non issue atm.

HT actually takes away from some per core IPC when enabled. That's why the 9700K performance is good, the cores aren't sharing resource to run additional threads.

I'd say a 9700K running 5ghz (most 14nm Intel chips do this easily enough) would be a pretty good performer, a 3700X would have a lower minimum frame rate for example. 

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19 minutes ago, ShrimpBrime said:

9700K is 8 threads and high frequency. I'm not aware of too many games that scale past 8 threads. So that's a non issue atm.

 

HT actually takes away from some per core IPC when enabled. That's why the 9700K performance is good, the cores aren't sharing resource to run additional threads.

 

I'd say a 9700K running 5ghz (most 14nm Intel chips do this easily enough) would be a pretty good performer, a 3700X would have a lower minimum frame rate for example. 

So you suggesting 9700K over 10700F?

I just don't want to buy new CPU for next 4-5 years because it lack of threads.

This is dilemma-either higher frequency and less threads or more threads and lower frequency.If I look for performance and future gaming,what would you chose?

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24 minutes ago, Chris Redfield said:

I really hope it will be OK.

I just read that max boost clocks apply to only one thread when other usage is light and when thermal limits permit.

You said in previous post that ''You buy into the highest frequency processor you can afford. ''

That CPU would be 9700K + overclock.

However lack of threads and lower cache is what worries me the most.HT is nice to have,but I don't need it that much.

If you overclock and only game, the 9700k is better, as i already sated.

Some games and some apps will benefit from hyperthreading.

You can't do anything to make the 9700k grow Hyperthreading, but you CAN make the 10700 effectively boost almost as high as a stock 9700k by modifying the power limits and even doing some BCLK overclocking.

Up to you.

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1 hour ago, Chris Redfield said:

I have GTX 1080 Ti and if I go with 10700 will I experience any bottleneck?

I don't plan to replace new CPU after 10700 for at least 4-5 years,and in the mean time I plan to buy RTX 2080 Ti.

Will 10700 bottleneck either of those two GPUs at 1440p or 4K?

I read article you posted and it said I should have a lot of RAM.

Would 2x8 be enough?

 

Do not buy a 2080 ti. The RTX 3070 will have similar performance for less money. 

If you plan on 1440p or 4K then I would go with a Ryzen cpu as you are more gpu bound at higher resolutions, especially 4K.

Is Core i7

Is a i7

Is 10700F processor good?

What is the i7