Bg gdi fuel/air induction service review

Bg gdi fuel/air induction service review

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Discussion Starter · #1 · Sep 9, 2014

Here is a review of the BG Air Induction Service for GDI engines i had completed today and promised i would post the results. For anyone who is not familiar with the service see this link.*

Gasoline Fuel System | BG Products, Inc.

The mechanic took of the intake tube going to the throttle body & attached pic 1 below which is a injector/mister/whatever, at the throttle body opening. Next he attached it to the pressurized tank in pic 2 filled with BG GDI cleaner pic 3 which was hooked up to shops compressor. he set it at 60psi. . The tech then opened the outlet valve and away we went. ...BTW my throttle body was not stuck and was totaly*free*but it did show some gum build up..more on that to come. ...

took about 10-15 minutes to run the cleaner through the throttle body but no smoke at all out of my exhaust? He then then he put a pedal depressor in and and set the rpm to around 1300 and out it all came. There was blue/grey? smoke coming out of exhaust took about 45 seconds to get it all out. he called me over to take a look at the throttle body when he was done and the TB looked like it had been placed into a parts cleaner overnight... not even..it looked like a brand new TB. NO TSB for my throttle body! Finally he reset the ECM to clear any rich code which was there from all that cleaner.*

They stand by the product so firmly that they will pay up to four thousand dollars if any carbon deposit issues ever choke up the engine and or do any damage to the engine or exhaust, including the Cat. no chance of locking up my engine with an unproven product like sea foam or any other off the shelf cleaner.

The warranty which was given to me is good only if you get the service done before you hit 30k miles & you have to get it done every 30k thereafter. 75 bucks every 2-2 1/2 years i am sold. The ECM was reset so i can not tell if the sudden increase in HP and torque especially when i touch the pedal lightly "now it jumps off the line" is from the cleaning or from the ecm reset. Either way I am happy & have peace of mind & have a clean throttle body and valves and lol!

Check out all the mechanics, not the dealers as i don't trust them as far as i can throw them on youtube that swear by this service.*

The tech also told me he had a older model*ford explorer*in recently it had about 130k on it and it had to him what sounded like a sticking valve/valves and ran like crap. He used this same service on it and it was so bad he had to raise the idle to 2k just to keep the motor alive during the treatment but when he was done blowing it out the valves were no longer sticking and she was idling & running like a different motor .

Bg gdi fuel/air induction service review
Bg gdi fuel/air induction service review
Bg gdi fuel/air induction service review

last but probably most important, proof. Actual news report shaming scam products claiming to increase mpg and guess which one actually worked? Yep, BG

Hope you enjoyed the review! :beer:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Knx8FFYEO0k

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Interesting. So, just the induction, or also the oil and gasoline additives?

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Discussion Starter · #3 · Sep 9, 2014

TY. I just got the induction service and the gas additive. you can get the oil service can if you like but i do my own oil changes and use the expensive stuff so i wasn't to concerned about the oil. The oil additive also got great reviews. I believe they have a few different oil additives for different applications.

Interesting. So, just the induction, or also the oil and gasoline additives?

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Discussion Starter · #4 · Sep 11, 2014

Also wanted to add procedure for resetting the blue link trouble codes. It seems any DTC will go straight to them even if it does not set off a check engine light. I told the Blue Link rep it was just serviced and the tech cleared the ECM and they told me Hyundai has to clear the Blue Link stored codes so now you can do it yourself.

If you know your car is fine and you set off a DTC by using BG service or Sea foam or whatever else you were doing the check engine light may or may not come on but it will go to blue link as i found out which is stupid as the code could be stored or pending as it was in my case.

IMO it should not go to blue link if it is a pending code. Rather than explaining the procedure here are the instructions per hyundai for both owners, with and without a subscription.

If i made any mistakes here guys please correct me.

Clear the code from the ECM then follow the instructions.

View attachment Reset Blue Link DTC codes.pdf

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I wouldn't doubt this solvent shortens the life of the cat.

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Discussion Starter · #6 · Sep 11, 2014

possibly. Then again we can say the same for Techron, gumout, sea foam and all the rest.

I would rather use a product that is dispersed at a slow rate by a certified tech than anything else. Kia is using this and some hyundai use a similar brand though i forget the name.

I wouldn't doubt this solvent shortens the life of the cat.

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I believe they use Techron. I have seen the bottles with Hyundai labels.

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BG has warranties that cover anything that might be damaged by their treatments. I don't think they would induce something into an engine that would cost them money.

Toyota uses BG treatments on cars under warranty.

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BG has warranties that cover anything that might be damaged by their treatments.

I'm sure filing a warranty claim with BG would be futile. The burden of proof is on you to prove BG damaged your cat.

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I'm sure filing a warranty claim with BG would be futile. The burden of proof is on you to prove BG damaged your cat.

I don't think my dealership would have been told by Toyota do use them as a service if they were going to reneg on any damage caused by their service.

Toyota used BG to clean out oil sludged engines back in the mid-2000's when sludging became an issue with the 2.4L engine.

If you brought your car into a Toyota dealer because of sludge issues, and Toyota calls in the local BG service, you think Toyota wants a bunch of angry customers coming back because the BG service damaged the car?

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I have never ever seen a fuel injector service mentioned in any owner's manual I have ever looked at as as routine maintenance item. As we know, this service is a high profit item for all shop and marketed heavily as routine maintenance but again, show me the manual. Perhaps if the engine is not operating at optimum or some other issue but to perform this on a routine basis, IMO just not needed but just my opinion. Whatever lets you sleep at night.

I love the shops that dump in the BG oil product with an oil change and charge the customer for it without even asking if the customer wanted it. Wonder what the kickback to the shop is for pushing that BG product. Anyway, if you are happy with the service great and I hope that price holds for you every 30,000 miles, most places charge 125-175 for the injector service.

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It's a service and has to be performed either by a BG technician or a Certified BG repair center. Sometimes they have to attach the engine to a machine and flow the oil through the machine, and sometimes they just put the treatment in, run the engine for ~30 minutes, flush and fill.

Now, I am familiar with BG Professional Services. As far as I know, BG doesn't have any products you can just dump in the engine and leave there. Of course, I stopped dealing with cars back in 2006 and things change, but as far as I know, you can't just buy BG products, and neither can the dealers.

BG Service pricing used to start at ~$60 and go up from there, so I don;t think they'd be too likely to just put something in your engine that was that pricey.

If they do, you can refuse to pay for it.

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Discussion Starter · #13 · Sep 11, 2014

SBR711 mentioned that they offer it at his hyundai service dept just a different brand & probably a lot more then shop.. & if we think about it, when we use top tier fuel or Techron like hyundai says to use it never touchs the intake valves.

I think what we are look at here is a future recommended maintenance. Already Hyundai has a TSB on the throttle body gumming up and mine was not clean at all with only 27k on it and two filters in the air box which i just noticed the other day! I was dumbfounded when i seen the upper filter....After after the service the throttle body and plate was spotless.

i have Been driving it for a couple of days now and so has my wife and she said it takes off from a stop like a bat out of he double LL. ... & i feel a huge difference.

Regarding the dealers & shops of course they want to sell you everything. that is how the service reps make there money. They are just as bad as the sales people.

And the shops that throw in anything without my permission will be eating there cost unless they want a scene in there waiting room. They have a lot of nerve doing that to people!

The poor lady that was the original owner of my CPO left her maintenance receipts in the glove box and boy did they screw her royally! I looked at what they charges this lady for simple items like cabin filter and there 30 point inspection and I felt so bad for her. over 1500 dollars in unnecessary maintenance in the 2 years she leased the car!

The thing i found interesting is that BG will not give you the warranty on a induction service unless you are under 30k with the initial service. I don't believe the Hyundai has any carbon build up beyond the norm. but others do like the ford gdi ecoboost.

If i can't clean my intake valves with an additive then i wanted another option and for me, this was it. I did put days into researching the company and it's products and many a mechanic swear by them.

But it is our individual choice how far we want to go with preventative maintenance.

I just happen to be a little OCD :grin2:

I have never ever seen a fuel injector service mentioned in any owner's manual I have ever looked at as as routine maintenance item. As we know, this service is a high profit item for all shop and marketed heavily as routine maintenance but again, show me the manual. Perhaps if the engine is not operating at optimum or some other issue but to perform this on a routine basis, IMO just not needed but just my opinion. Whatever lets you sleep at night.

I love the shops that dump in the BG oil product with an oil change and charge the customer for it without even asking if the customer wanted it. Wonder what the kickback to the shop is for pushing that BG product. Anyway, if you are happy with the service great and I hope that price holds for you every 30,000 miles, most places charge 125-175 for the injector service.

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Discussion Starter · #14 · Sep 11, 2014

This is not some fly by night additive company. They have been in business for 43 years. They must be doing something right. Where did you read this "The burden of proof is on you"?

From what I read if you have a warranty claim, they send out an inspector just like any other warranty or insurance company would.

I'm sure filing a warranty claim with BG would be futile. The burden of proof is on you to prove BG damaged your cat.

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Discussion Starter · #15 · Sep 11, 2014

They meaning Hyundai? Yes they do. but it never touches the intake valves.

I believe they use Techron. I have seen the bottles with Hyundai labels.

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I never siad Hyundai dealers did not perform this service I said that it is not mentioned in any owner's manual as routine maintenance ( well not mentioned at all) but not as a routine procedure especially.

Yes, BG does make a product that you dump in the crankcase at each oil change, dealers charge 10-15 for the additive which surprises me since most manufacturers say to add nothing to your oil yet dealerships do it to increase profits.

Anyway, I would love to know how many, if any, people were on the receiving end of a BG warranty claim where they actually paid off?

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Discussion Starter · #17 · Sep 11, 2014 (Edited)

Who cares about the protection warranty when we are talking about a induction service? For god sakes people still dump water in their engines to steam off the valves. And hyundai owners in here squirting sea foam into their brake booster and pcv hoses. Where is there warranty? Sea foam is going to pay for a hydrolocked motor? Doubt it. At least they have a warranty and lets hope no one has to use it.

View attachment Throttle Body Cleaning Hyundai TSB.pdf

If this is on there throttle body i wonder what is on the intake and the valves? Hyundai consider that pic to be heavy? Mine was more gummed up that the one in the tsb photo.

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You can buy a lot of BG stuff on Amazon, but I've never tried any of it.

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I get kickback from BG all the time, usually up to a few dollars per flush for techs. and MORE for advisors. They pay us only in $2 bills everytime.

Most manufactures don't recommend any tools BG has for flushes, but everybodys got'em.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

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Discussion Starter · #20 · Sep 12, 2014

LMAO! at least the man is honest :wink:

I get kickback from BG all the time, usually up to a few dollars per flush for techs. and MORE for advisors. They pay us only in $2 bills everytime.

Most manufactures don't recommend any tools BG has for flushes, but everybodys got'em.$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

Is BG fuel induction service worth it?

Even though fuel induction services can restore the performance of some engines, it is not worth the money for everyone.

What is BG fuel air induction service?

The service is called BG Induction Service, BG fuel/air induction service, or BG air induction service, but its all the same thing. The service completely cleans the fuel system intakes, runners, injectors, etc. Since all cars are some form of direct injection, this service is a must at around the 30,000 miles.